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Date: 1/29/2004 7:32am Name: Whois  Delta (858)
Delete Subject: Large dance floor
They have removed yet another panel of glass in the wall around the large dance floor, reducing the action in the corners of the dance floor and on the front row of couches next to the dance floor. LA clubs are going to hell.

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Date: 1/13/2004 4:06pm Name: Whois  toney3002 (9)
Delete Subject: One more thing
Oh, one more thing that I noticed when I was sitting on the couch by the large dance floor. I saw one girl (dark hair, young, pretty face but she is a big girl. Too fat for my taste.) whose hand kept moving fast for a while on the guy’s #$%$ area, if you know what I mean. They were sitting right by the TV, so her back was facing the front area where the security guy comes around. Her customer was looking up with the blank-expression on his face. I guess he was feeling pretty good. LOL!

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Date: 1/13/2004 8:14am Name: Whois  toney3002 (8)
Delete Subject: Saturday night at LAG.
I walked in around 10:00. Very crowded. There were only 2/3 couples in the small dance floor area, but the large dance floor was packed. I danced with a short, Latina from Mexico who spoke very little English. She gave me a good grinding on the dance floor but she really didn’t do it for me.

There were so many girls working that night. Some were more attractive than the others, but IMO I didn’t see one, what I consider, really good-looking girl. I have seen a few lookers there in the past but I guess they usually don’t stick around very long.

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Date: 12/12/2003 3:40pm Name: Whois  toney3002 (6)
Delete Subject: Tuesday night - Dead!
I walked in around 9:45. Not many guys standing around, and I only saw 3 girls sitting on the couch. The place looked dead. I peeked into the small dance floor area and saw just 1 couple dancing and the couch area was empty.

I stayed 45 minutes or so and see if there was any girl I wanted to dance with. But, no such luck.

I left and headed for CF.

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Date: 11/29/2003 12:51pm Name: Whois  toney3002 (5)
Delete Subject: LAG crowd
I noticed that too, Delta.

BTW, I wonder how many of those guys came into the club just to hang out and never dance with girls. Even last Saturday night, I noticed that a lot of guys standing around were not even watching the fights.

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Date: 11/26/2003 3:35pm Name: Whois  Delta (716)
Delete Subject: Saturday night
We were there at the same time Toney. I agree with you. Fri and Sat nights are a zoo. You can't even walk past the cashier it's so crowded. My strategy is to get a girl and get to a dance floor. I really can't handle standing in that mob for very long.

Thye have a huge number of girls on those nights and selection is as good as it gets at any HC.

What I didn't understand last night (a Tuesday) was why there were almost as many guys as Sat night for the fights, but a scarce number of girls because the mandatory work-the-weekend rule was not in effect. Is HC damand picking up?

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Date: 11/24/2003 4:48pm Name: Whois  toney3002 (4)
Delete Subject: Saturday night
LAG was completely packed on Saturday night. I walked in around 9:30 and there were just way too many guys standing around, and couldn't even see the girls sitting on the couches. They were showing some fights on TV, so maybe that's why...

I picked one Latina whom I've never seen before. I picked her because she was less fat than the most.
I guess the quality of the LAG girls are still pretty much the same. We went to the large dance floor, danced a little, and sat down and talked a little.

A couple of months ago, one girl told me they didn't allow 'ass-grind' on the dance floor. But, now I saw a couple of girls doing it. My girl gave me a decent ass-grind, too. So, LAG is relaxing their rules a bit, at least on the dance floor?

The lighting in the couch area, next to the large dance floor, seemed to be a little brighter than usual. I wish they'd rearrage the couches back to 'normal'.

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Date: 11/6/2003 9:58am Name: Whois  Delta (624)
Delete Subject: New afternoon Start Time
The Club now opens at 4:00 p.m., rather than the 2:30 or 3:00 p.m. start times earlier this year. Last night at midnight, selection was fair, mileage was ordinary. Fantasy had better looking girls.

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Date: 11/3/2003 11:35pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (155)
Delete Subject: Re: Where did former LAG girls go?
Don't expect most of the ladies working at hostess clubs consider it as their permanent career job. Some of them don't enjoy working there but they need to make money to make ends meet. Most of the ladies who work for a long time and suddenly disappear, one can assume that they probably moved on with their life and found a better job or relocated to another hostess club. My advice is that if you have a regular hostess dancer that you wish to keep-in-touch, you might want to exchange information before she decides to move on and disappear from the club.

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Date: 10/22/2003 2:14pm Name: Whois  toney3002 (2)
Delete Subject: Where did former LAG girls go?
I heard a lot of fun girls were either fired or quit over the last several months. And, that explains why I have not seen any of my regular girls for sometime. I only know of one girl who went to CF. I wonder where the rest of the girls went.

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Date: 10/21/2003 9:49am Name: Whois  Delta (582)
Delete Subject: re: No mileage
Last night (Monday), mileage was normal for me. The large dance floor was dark. The couches in the back row were dark, although they are bright on the monitors. I guess YMMV. Sleepy keeps telling me the LAG has some LE problem that will result in a suspension for 30 days, but I can't confirm it from any other source.

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Date: 10/20/2003 11:34pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (151)
Delete Subject: Re: No Mileage
I think the club owner is trying to be very cautious what goes on. Once the undercover vice cops discover something wrong, the club can be force to shutdown. I certainly don't want that to happen. In fact, I've heard rumors from the ladies that the club will close down just like what happened to VIP in the City of Industry. All it takes is for one person to screw it up for everyone. Fortunately, the closure will be temporary.

If you are looking for mileage inside the club, I suggest that you and your lady hostess meet privately outside the club. It doesn't look good for the club because your actions could ruin it for me as well as everyone who are looking for some nighttime entertainment.

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Date: 10/20/2003 4:26pm Name: Whois  toney3002 (1)
Delete Subject: No Mileage at LAG
I'm almost giving up on LAG. Every girl I danced with lately tells me, "Camera!! Camera!!" or "I don't wanna get fired." I used to have fun there but no more.

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Date: 10/20/2003 8:13am Name: Whois  Delta (581)
Delete Subject: Thursday
The usual good selection on a Thursday night shift. Mileage unaltered after the opening up of the dance floor and rearrangement of the furniture.

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Date: 9/5/2003 1:14am Name: Whois  Hurricane (144)
Delete Subject: Re: New Rules for Patrons and Hostess
TenFree,
I'm sure there are some Employment attorneys out there who offers free consultation. But, if a hostess dancer still wishes to pursue a "wrongful termination" lawsuit against the club and the lawyer believes she may have a legal case, then she better be prepared to pay $1K to the attorney or put a downpayment of some unspecified amount before filling out paperwork. However, I remember a while back one of the girls told me that they have to sign a contract before they become hired. I'm certain somewhere in the contract may include a legal statement that prevent the hostess dancer to take any kind of legal action against the club. If so, then it may turn out to be a losing battle and there's no chance of recovering her money from the attorney. On the other hand, if the attorney find holes in the contract and she happens to win the case, then she could be awarded probably at least $7K or more depending the circumstances.

Does anybody know if these girls are considered 'independent contractors' to these clubs?

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Date: 9/4/2003 5:20pm Name: Whois  TenFree (773)
Delete Subject: RE: New Rules for Patrons and Hostess
I believe most clubs have this rule, as well as a lot of strip clubs. It's just not publicly posted. This is no doubt a response to the recent bust at CF. The club hopes it can absolve them of legal liability should they experience the same thing, but I'm not sure that it would. As a practical matter they can't enforce it, but what HG has the resources to hire an attorney and fight it if she gets fired for violating the rule?

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Date: 8/30/2003 10:28pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (140)
Delete Subject: New Rules for Patrons and Hostess
I stop-by this club in the afternoon today and noticed a big new sign above the cashier's desk. It reads something like if there an agreement between the hostess and the customers to meet, go out and date outside the club for $money$, it's considered unlawful and impermissible and a risk of being arrested and/or fired from their job. It makes me wonder how the club owners can enforce this regulation outside the club? I believe it's really none of their (damn) business what goes on outside the club if the hostess is not at work. The club can probably be sued for wrongful termination by the hostess. Am I correct?

I noticed the entrance leading to the large dance floor had been widen a little bit and the couches had been reorganized.

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Date: 8/28/2003 7:22am Name: Whois  Delta (477)
Delete Subject: RE: deep backgound
It goes to 90, then closure.

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Date: 8/27/2003 9:33am Name: Whois  TenFree (768)
Delete Subject: RE: Deep Background
And if they resist the 60 day suspension and lose again, does the suspension increase even more?

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Date: 8/26/2003 9:27am Name: Whois  Delta (476)
Delete Subject: Deep background
LAG now faces a 30-day closure. The club is resisting If their resistance is unsuccessful, the 30 days increases to 60 days.

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Date: 8/20/2003 11:05am Name: Whois  Delta (461)
Delete Subject: Deep background
Inside word has it that LA Grand has received one too many citations for conduct. Those citations are the origin of the changes (more open dance floor, more lights, and whatever else is about to happen after the reflooring of the small dance area). Sounds like Dreamland all over again.

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Date: 8/9/2003 2:32pm Name: Whois  Delta (438)
Delete Subject: more reconstruction
The small dance floor are has be de-rugged. The whole area is a new hardwood floor. Could be a new dance floor.

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Date: 8/3/2003 1:28pm Name: Whois  Delta (420)
Delete Subject: reconstruction
There is a new dance floor . . . larger and from wall to wall . . . no walls yet around the center but looks nice for now.

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Date: 8/1/2003 10:37pm Name: Whois  Delta (416)
Delete Subject: reconstruction
Somthing is happening. The small dance floor was closed today to be remodeled.. It'a probably not good.

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Date: 7/27/2003 10:10am Name: Whois  Delta (396)
Delete Subject: Lights, Camera NO ACTION!
Apparently the origin of the changes in not LE. The owner took a black light to the couches. He apparently saw lots of "organic material. It casued him to increase visibility.

The couches are now in an open square formation. Every sitter can see every other sitter. Lighting levels are being increasd. New lights are being installed above the large dance floor couch area.

Yesterday the result was much lower mileage. Yuk.

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Date: 7/26/2003 3:34pm Name: Whois  TenFree (748)
Delete Subject: RE: Lights, Cameras, NO ACTION!
You go to LAG a lot more than I do, so you probably know more than me. But I'll ask around.

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Date: 7/26/2003 10:26am Name: Whois  Delta (395)
Delete Subject: Lights, Cameras, NO ACTION!
The increased lighting on the dance floors has been followed by removal of a portion of the glass walls surrounding each dance floor. The effect is a severe decrease in mileage and increase in surveillance on the small dance floor, with only a modest change in the big dance floor. But more severe changes are on the way for the big dance floor . . . more openness, especially in the seating area, and changes in lighting over the seating area.

TF, lets have some reporting on these changes.

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Date: 7/17/2003 11:18am Name: Whois  Delta (377)
Delete Subject: Lights, camera, NO ACTION!
Last night at LAG, the dance-floor lights were up and the action was down.

An interesting insider note . . . when, during the night shift, Kurt calls for ten free minutes, and Saul is at the desk, which happened all night last night, no one is watching the cameras in the office. There is a 10 minute window of opportunity. Although the monitor on the cashier's desk is still within view, they don't pay any attention to it . . . and that monitor must be manually changed to the different camera views, whereas the office has a separate monitor for each camera.

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Date: 4/24/2003 11:45pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (122)
Delete Subject: Re: VIP Impact
Yeah. I was at Club Fantasy (CF) tonight and noticed there is a 40% increase of new girls. Half of them came from Club Tropical. I recognize some of them. I suppose the other half came from LA Grand and VIP Lounge.

I came to this club last week during the daytime and didn't like the selection of gals.

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Date: 4/24/2003 9:43pm Name: Whois  Ratpack (17)
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[TenFree]-->But how long will it last? What I've heard is that even before the surge, LAG management was not hesitant to let girls go. Reportedly they are watching the camera monitors more closely. A number of girls have been called into the office and given a talking to recently.

[Ratpack]---> i've heard and seen exactly the same thing. apparently management laid it down straight to the girls...new cameras, increases monitoring, too many girls here, need to let some go...and they have... i've heard of many girls being let go over the last couple months. for a variety of reasons...mileage, fighting, not making their hours, etc. basically the girls are on notice and they are actively looking to thin the crowd.

[Delta]--> This could also portend a rate increase by the Club as demand increases by former VIP customers. Another result could be attrition by the less-than-busy girls, resulting in higher quality.

[Ratpack]---> i think they'd be premature with a rate increase. the truth is, while there has been plenty of girls, it's been relatively slow some nights. i think LAG realizes who their target market is and it might be wise if they didn't screw that up too bad. as for quality of girls...i've been to VIP and i never saw any real lookers there (though i didn't frequent the place). considering the customer base at LAG it would be more likely that girls would migrate when they aren't making VIP sized tips than the guys would leave because the girls are asking for more.

[TenFree]-->I'm a little surprised that more ex-VIP girls haven't made their way to CF....I think VIP had more in common with CF as far as type of girls and clientele than with LAG.

[Ratpack]--->i know alot of LAG girls had been moving to other clubs...mostly CF but i know of a few who tried Starlight but didn't dig it. i imagine it's because of the heightened state at LAG...so it's a safe bet that trend will continue.

[Ratpack]---> where the hell are all these people now that have been talking about opening new clubs? it would be good timing if someone got their act together.

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Date: 4/24/2003 5:49pm Name: Whois  TenFree (699)
Delete Subject: RE:VIP Impact
[Delta]-->The great unreported story on this BB, which no one seems to post on,

[TenFree]-->That's because they seem to prefer posting on the Yahoo group, not that it gets a lot of posts either.

[Delta]-->is that LAG is having a huge surge in girls. When there are too many girls, the action increases dramatically for customers . . . and that is certainly taking place.

[TenFree]-->But how long will it last? What I've heard is that even before the surge, LAG management was not hesitant to let girls go. Reportedly they are watching the camera monitors more closely. A number of girls have been called into the office and given a talking to recently.

[Delta]-->Last night LAG had 65 girls working. Many were from LAG.

[TenFree]-->I think you meant to say from VIP?

[Delta]-->Customers too have migrated. <snip>

CF is not experiencing anything like the LAG surge. This could also portend a rate increase by the Club as demand increases by former VIP customers. Another result could be attrition by the less-than-busy girls, resulting in higher quality. We'll see.

[TenFree]-->I'm a little surprised that more ex-VIP girls haven't made their way to CF. Of course it was to be expected that they would be encouraged to go to LAG, but not all of them will fit in there and some of them just won't like it. I think VIP had more in common with CF as far as type of girls and clientele than with LAG. I wouldn't be crazy about a rate increase, but I would welcome an improvement in quality as it certainly needs it.

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Date: 4/24/2003 1:56pm Name: Whois  Delta (296)
Delete Subject: VIP impact
The great unreported story on this BB, which no one seems to post on, is that LAG is having a huge surge in girls. When there are too many girls, the action increases dramatically for customers . . . and that is certainly taking place.

Last night LAG had 65 girls working. Many were from LAG. Customers too have migrated. Saturday night, there was a line to get in to the place, which of course has never happened at a HC downtown.

Today should be a banner day both afternoon and evening.

CF is not experiencing anything like the LAG surge. This could also portend a rate increase by the Club as demand increases by former VIP customers. Another result could be attrition by the less-than-busy girls, resulting in higher quality. We'll see.

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Date: 4/7/2003 3:39pm Name: Whois  Delta (287)
Delete Subject: Hours
FWIW, the Club opens at 3:30 p.m., instead of 2:30, effective last Friday.

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Date: 2/19/2003 11:51am Name: Whois  TenFree (682)
Delete Subject: RE: LA GRAND Humping
While it's true that LAG is stricter than CF in monitoring the couch action, I'm dubious of the ex-CF girl's claim than their security overlooks what's going on on the couches. Certainly Sal doesn't overlook anything. I've heard accounts of him warning the girls.

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Date: 2/19/2003 8:37am Name: Whois  blueman (2)
Delete Subject: LA GRAND Humping
Went to LA Grand Last night and saw alot of dry humping going dowm on the dance floor. A new girl that worked there from CF said that CF was more loose so to speak and that she even saw a girl give a BJ there recently. She said that she has been fired since. She said that the security guards overlook what is going on the couches at CF. She said it was much more strict at LAG.

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Date: 11/25/2002 2:07pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (98)
Delete Subject: Re: OT Hurricane
Okay. I hope you receive my e-mail. Look forward to your quick reply.

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Date: 11/25/2002 11:16am Name: Whois  asela77 (1)
Delete Subject: OT: Hurricane
Hey Hurricane,

I had a question for you. Wondering if you could email me: asela77@yahoo.com

Thanks!

-Andy

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Date: 11/12/2002 11:52am Name: Whois  Hurricane (93)
Delete Subject: Re: LAG Racquel
I don't remember what Racquel looks like anymore since I've been with her once. My suggestion is that if you meet a chica that you like and you want to go back and see her next time in the club, it's a good idea to bring a pocket-sized paper pad and ask to write down her name and clock number as your reference. That's what I've been doing now.

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Date: 10/8/2002 11:04pm Name: Whois  bmoose (New)
Delete Subject: LAG Raquel
Hey Hurricane, can you give me Raquel clock # or describe her. I'd like to check her out. Have not been to LAG for years. Thanks.

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Date: 9/22/2002 5:29pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (88)
Delete Subject: RE: Sandra-hurricane
I think I danced with a chica named Raquel. I remember grinding her and grabbing her ass while dancing with her. At the end, I only gave her 10 bucks for tip.

I don't see Sandra lately. A friend of mines told me she only come in Tuesdays and Sundays after 9pm.

I'm starting to get addicted to hanging out at hostess clubs than at strip clubs. I really love making-out (kissing, hugging and cuddling) with some chicas at the couch areas.

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Date: 9/22/2002 1:04pm Name: Whois  feo2k (10)
Delete Subject: Sandra
It's strange how we become obsessed by thigs we can not have. Just an obserbation.

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Date: 9/22/2002 12:58pm Name: Whois  feo2k (9)
Delete Subject: Sandra-hurricane
Boy this place is kind of slow...What happened? where is everybody?
I have been out of town for a wile...I just got back and decided to check out this site to see what has been happening. Aperently nothing is happening. Shit hurricane and myself are the last to post anyting here, and that's about a month ago.
Hurricane I see you are no longer dancing with your friend Sandra. Acording to what you posted last, it seems that your friend took over that job. So how is he doing with her? Is he haveing better luck then you? I know he is having better luck then me cause I never got to dance with her.
I went to LA GRAND Sat. for a wile, and I saw your ex-friend Sandra There . I didn't dance with her just saw her there...Man she seems to be always bussy. Acouple of guys were haveing a litte discussion on who was going to dance with her first. She was werring a very short mini skirt
it was so short it berly coverd her ass. I have to admit I would love to get my hands on that ass.

Is your friend getting any of that fine ass?
I met a chick there by the name of Raquelle or someting like that. very cute ,pretty face nice body lets you touch as much a you like as long as you give her a decent tip. by the way i didn't dance with her either. I got that info from a friend that danced with her.

I did have a dance with a chick nothing to brag about. while I was dancing I had a chance to see Raquelle and Your Ex- buddy SAndra in action cause they were there on the same dance floor.

Raquelle was pinned on a well and the guy hads were under her dress grabing her ass as he wind grinding the sh** out of her.

And as for Sandra she was dancing with a mexican dude. She was not pinned on any wall but she was ddancing dam close to this guy as id they were glued together. They were grinding and his hands were all over her. She seemed to be enjoying it.

Hurricane let me know how your buddy is doing with sandra if its ok.

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Date: 9/2/2002 5:24pm Name: Whois  Hurricane (85)
Delete Subject: Sal & Sleepy, Sandra
Opppss. I thought Sal and Sleepy were working at LA Grand. I got confused.

I did not see Sandra when I last visit the club. My friend told me that while I was dancing with another chica, Sandra was there. So, my friend asked her out for a dance instead. For the entire time I was in the club, I haven't seen her. Besides, I don't really care anymore if she's not interested to commit herself to get to know me. Also, I won't ask her out anymore for a dance because I know she will reject me. It is a waste of time and .

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Date: 9/2/2002 1:15pm Name: Whois  feo2k (8)
Delete Subject: sal and sleepy
Sal and sleepy work ar FANTACY not LA GRAND. By the way did you se your old freind Sandra?

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