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[qbg]--> Ditto your comments, sax, as to j777.
As to the story, well, you won't find me complaining about a new club's opening. As Z mentioned, this is the first new nudie on the west side in years (and only the 4th overall). Similar reservations might have been expressed about Silver Reign when it opened, but, for all my own complaints about that club, I'm still glad it's there.
Dilution of quality? It's hard to say that without snickering a bit, but really, if there were only half as many clubs, you'd be facing twice as much competition for the attention of your favorite at, what was it, 7557? Or, more likely, that club woudn't even be open.
As for stupid, short-sighted greed, hey, this is Lapland. This is L.A. This is America!
[saxbeat]--> I'm not worried about competing for anyone's attention at the clubs I go to. If there were half as many clubs, perhaps each club would have twice as many dancers!
When I started clubbing, there were not many clubs in L.A. I'd guess fewer than a dozen. And EVERY dancer was at least an 8. It's not fuzzy memory or nostalgia, or wishful thinking. They were all fantastic in face and body, and frequently, in attitude.
Over the years, the dancers have gotten plainer and plainer. The best dancer at the best club I've seen in the last 10 years can't compete with the worst dancer at an average club (there really weren't any bad clubs) in, say, 1985.
The dancers at Bare Elegance in 1987 were literally Playboy quality. It was like every dancer was a 9 or a 10. Last time I was there, they were barely Suicide Girls quality. I don't think one struck me as better than an 8.
Even Venus Faire had knockout dancers in 1985.
I remember going to a club called "The Sunset Strip" on Sunset Blvd., near Tower Records, back in the late '70s and it was as if I'd walked into a party at the Playboy Mansion.
There is nowhere now, where I'd be likely to have that feeling. Even the venerable 4Play and Bare Elegance are getting by with shifts full of 7s. Most clubs are getting by with mostly 5s and 6s. There are many times I have been to a club and not seen a single girl over a 7. (Yes, I know this is very subjective.)
Now, I still enjoy myself, and some of these ladies are sexy in their own way, and many of them give fine lap dances, but it just isn't the same, and I blame the dilution of having 100+ clubs in L.A.
Just out of curiosity, what are the four nudie clubs on the Westside? Only three come to mind off the top of my head.
- 4Play
- Silver Reign
- Skin
- ???
Fantasy Island and Plan B aren't nude, of course; are you using the term "nudie" colloquially?
I guess if you live in the area, having a selection is a good thing, especially if the clubs are run very differently; but I'd think that since Skin and SR are the same management, all it means is that dancers (and profits) will be split between clubs and with the addition of unwanted community attention, both clubs are at risk, which could hurt your interests in the long term.
There is a whole section of the Westside without clubs: Santa Monica, Palms, Venice, Marina del Ray, Westchester, etc. Unfortunately, all of those communities are equally likely to oppose a club, though it would serve the needs of their PLs well, and tap into a different talent pool.
I don't believe clubs are like auto dealers, and benefit from proximity to one another, but I could be wrong. I've heard great things about Houston, for example, where I think the clubs are grouped together. (Or maybe that is Dallas?)
sax "bell curve" beat
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